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Discussion in 'Help and Advice' started by BigLarry, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. BigLarry

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    Doesn't seem to be talked a lot as it does say on the American sites, just wondered if many did it on here.

    I've been at it for about 3 weeks now so early days but no negative effects apart from a skimmer cup full of crude oil every other day. Could be placebo but I think my colours are coming a bit better, especially in my plates which where looking almost bleached.

    Currently on 2.1ml of 40% proof a day in 300 litres.
     
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  2. StarfishEnterprise

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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    Now im glad some one else has mentioned this as i was wondering what are the pros & cons. A lot of peopledont like the nopox but dont realise this is a form of carbon dosing & many dont do it right, dont give it enough time, & then when something does go wrong they blame that. Anyway to get back on track, i have a nitrate reactor sat doingnothing & im wondering wether to give it a whirl just to see the out come. My nitrate never seems to get above 6 because i use cheato iv no other filteration so stripping the nitrate may kill off the cheato.
     
  3. BigLarry

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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    My nitrates are so low I can't get a reading on the Salifert (it's clear) and my phosphates are also low *but* after my xenia erradication I've had a bit of a bloom so there just has to be organics in the water causing it whether the test kits say or not.

    That's why I started dosing V. I have also had to start skimming which I didn't do either. So far my chaeto and caulerpa has continued to flourish in the sump. At the moment I'm not using my doser for the vodka, just syringing in the required amount when I get in from work - strangely satisfying.

    I do think my colours are coming stronger in SPS and LPS.
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    So now i am def interested.

    Did you find you needed to skimmer? Iv no skimmer now & i really dont want one again.

    Just where exactly are you syringing the dosage? Not your arm lol?
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    i think once yu bottom out you halve the dose dude,,

    it defo works though,,i rememeber having to never clean the glass...mmh makes me wonder why i stopped..lol
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    Whats the recommended dose?
    Did you notice any side effects? No drunk fish lol
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    there are charts floating round,,i think you start at 0.1ml per 100l per day,,then build up slowly until nutrients get low,,then you halve and maintain
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    What brand vodka do people use? My nitrates need a drink...........
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    i have seen this many times never tried it i will give it a go i done use any skimmer just DSB and cheato and loads of rock
    i will try it i dont drink so it wont be easy going to buy vodka
    i will start on 0.1ml per 100l like screwloose said though to be on safe side
     
  10. scarytoastmonster

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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    Ive been vodka dosing for couple months now. Water is crystal clear and nitrates are quickly vanishing. From what I remember its recommended you run powerful skimmer and don't use with DSB. Can't remember exact reasoning for no DSB but pretty sure was a no go.
     
  11. Clearwater

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    The issue is

    If the Nitrates and Phosphates are high

    introducing a Carbon food source to quickly. creates a bacterial bloom, removing Oxygen and Carbonate hardness very quickly

    The tank can crash, due to Ph dropping quickly and low ORP

    This is why you are advised to start with a low dose and a skimmer to help the ORP and remove excess bacteria

    Carbon dosing is very effective, however the underlining causes of high organics have to be addressed as well

    i have done Vodka dosing without a Skimmer and. with a DSB, this is not without risk !
    it was Used it to help mature the tank by increasing the bacteria, by Adding Zeo Bak at the same time

    The Organics were low as it was a new tank

    On the old system I had an issue which was traced to poor RO water Vodka resolved the Organics and Cyno bloom, a skimmer was being used

    In the Chemistry section you can find more information on this topic
     
  12. Mayo

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    I'm into my fourth week of vodka dosing using Melev's Reefs Guide http://www.melevsreef.com/vodka_dosing.html I'm currently on 3.5ml per day. Haven't noticed any ill effects or blooms. I believe the blooms are caused by adding too much in one go. I use a 50ml syringe with a tap connected for a slow dip, I split my dose up into 3 doses per day diluted in 50ml of water.
    Iv been using tesco's own vodka.
    When I started I bought a new Salifert test kit and that read 0.75-1.0:eek: now it's down to 0.5:clap:
     

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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    i`m vodka dosing , been dosing now for 8 weeks. using 2.5ml every day (on a 600l tank) and my nitrates have dropped from 40 to 20.
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    ive just stopped for the second time, whenever i get my nitrates under 10 my lps suffer like mad.
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    My understanding of this is that due to being less nutrients in the water the LPS will need more disciplined target feeding.
     
  16. BigLarry

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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    My understanding is you must skim otherwise there's nowhere for the gunk to be "exported to" and you just get a big build up.

    I'm up to 2.1ml per day in 300l. Water clarity is definitely better, it's like there's no water in the tank if you get what I mean.
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    Iv suspended my dosing a few days in as iv just switched calcium reactor off & gone to Balling, i want to await results before clouding the issue with vodka.
    Keen to start though, hoping to eliminate the phos reactor & just have a small skimmer.
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    I had great results with vodka dosing, very effective. I've been using nopox now for quite a long while and i personally think its fantastic, i dose 4ml per day on a 650 litre tank.

    Carbon dosing is definitely the way to go if you have a small sump. On my next build i'm having a massive sump with MM :)
     
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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    i thought that if you just stop, you stave the bacteria and it all dies suddenly which can cause a crash. i thought you had to wean the tank off to prevent cold turkey.:crazy: [MENTION=11380]Neil[/MENTION] did i remember that right or am i confused again fella?
     
  20. algee

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    Re: Anyoen vodka dosing these days?

    No but id be open to it if there is enough info on the subject
     
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