1. Welcome to The Salty Box, a forum to discuss everything related to Marine & Reef Fish keeping in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to be able to join in discussions with others.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon

    Dismiss Notice

Anybody Else Like To Keep Their Fish In Pairs?

Discussion in 'Fish, Anemone's and Critters' started by les, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    I like. whenever possible to keep my fish in pairs (apart from those that like to be kept in shoals or my tank is too small for) I have a number of fish I keep as pairs well some I can't be sure if they are a genuine pair or not but others I am sure of. In the past, I have kept dwarf angels in pairs and when I bought a Multibar angel I thought about getting another. However, Multibars are known to be one of the more difficult of the angels to keep and are classed as "expert only" Hmm well not sure about the expert bit but I did want to be sure my Multibar was well settled, feeding well and there were no issues with my other fish, in particular, my Regal angel.

    10 months on and its thriving in my tank with no real aggression just the occasional nod from the Regal to say " I am still the boss here". Time to consider another maybe? Well, about 4 weeks ago Burscough Aquatic's got another 2 in but there was a problem. Of the two one was that bit bigger than the other and certainly bigger than the one I already have, however, it had a little swimbladder issue. Swimbladder problems usually occur when the collecting driver bring the fish to the surface too fast causing gas to build up in the swimbladder. The experts always say if you want a pair you must introduce them to the aquarium at the same time. However, I often don't do things by the book and would have to be ready to rescue one that took a battering so a difficult chancy decision to buy another.

    The problem wasn't bad but given Multibars can be a difficult fish I decided to leave it for now. The other fish had a slight mark on one side and was a bit smaller as said. I really wanted the larger of the two as it IMO gives me the best chance of getting on with my existing Multibar. I went go to Burscough regular but the fish still showed signs of the swimbladder issue that is until Friday when I visited again and the fish had shrugged off the issue and was swimming normally. The problem although slight was evident if you know the signs, I could have reserved the fish of course on first seeing it but I took the chance of waiting even though I doubt they would have sold it to a customer until it was cured.

    I purchased the new larger Multibar, acclimatised it (nope I never quarantine my fish) set it free from its bag and held my breath. I expected it to dive into my reefscape and either not to be seen for some time or for it to be chased around the tank by my existing Multibar, Regal or even my damsels but no none of it. The fish stayed out in the open others inc the regal came to check out the newcomer but no real aggression was shown. All to my surprise and much to my delight my existing smaller Multibar went straight to it and I thought here we go world war 3 but no they seem to hit it off immediately. 3 days later and its as if the new fish has been in the tank for months rather than days with the 2 of them often seen together.

    Phew! What a relief, still early days but the signs couldn't be more encouraging. I must add this was a calculated risk and not one I took lightly.
    I did manage to take a short video of the two of them together later on the Friday evening with the Regal giving a body shimmer just to remind it who is the boss fish in the tank. Link to it below.

     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2018
  2. doug_amanda

    doug_amanda Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2011
    Messages:
    2,056
    Likes Received:
    153
    Your a brave man les,,
    Glad it’s paid off :)
     
  3. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    Thanks, I have an eye for these things :roflmao:
     
  4. steve861uk

    steve861uk Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    Messages:
    772
    Likes Received:
    115
    Brave indeed :campeon: I read when starting out that it's often best to stock fish in odd numbers (i.e. 3 or more if you want multiple fish). This is why I have 3x Blue/Green Reef Chromis instead of 4x :rolleyes:.

    Seems to apply to aggressive/semi-aggressive fish. The following is an extract from liveaquaria.com "The Yellowtail Damsel is best kept in small groups of odd numbered fish in suitably sized systems".
     
  5. jim_fitz

    jim_fitz Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2013
    Messages:
    2,987
    Likes Received:
    134
    I think they show better as a pair
    I have regal tangs
    Yellow tangs
    Iritis wrasse
    Kuiters wrasse
     
    les likes this.
  6. jazz

    jazz Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    6
    Well done, Les. You did it the right way round adding a larger fish to the established smaller one. I noticed at the start of your video a Disco blenny do you have one or more, they group (not shoal) successfully

    Forgive me but I had to chuckle at this especially the advice from Liveaquaria. Do they really think fish can count:D and to how many. I have 12 Ignitus anthias in my tank- do you think they are plotting to kill one off so they can have an odd number ('Dave will soon be swimming with the humans, then we'll be 11':rolleyes:). I have 4 Kamahora Fang blennies, as they are from Japan perhaps one will commit hari-kari to maintain the odd number. Sorry for the tongue-in-cheek reply but the internet is full of these urban myths.
     
  7. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    Not true of all fish many are better in just pairs and putting say 3 in can lead to the death of one of them, it all depends on the species and sex of many fish.
     
  8. steve861uk

    steve861uk Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    Messages:
    772
    Likes Received:
    115
    Everything in my tank is at least paired up:

    I have a pair of Mocha Clowns m
    Maybe they work on the well known principal of..............Never let the truth get in the way of a good story :risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3:

    I now have an image of said fish committing hari-kari o_O:)
     
    jazz likes this.
  9. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    I have 2 of them I can't say they are a true pair but they get on together. I also have 2 canary blennies again they get on but can't be certain they are a true pair yet.
     
  10. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    IMO you can often buck the sold called well established rules on keeping more than one of any species. I have kept many fish in pairs inc various dwarf angels or groups like damsels and cardinal fish amongst others. I like to keep mainly small species of fish in as big a tank as I can accommodate and afford to run. There are to my mind and experience lots of advantages in doing so from spawning to even being healthier. Another plus is kept as such they can often be far more interesting. A few years ago I read a post about Royal grammas and one guy replied nice fish but boring, well try keeping them as a pair and it might change his mind same goes for may fish as they can be so much more interesting watching their interactions and behaviour.
     
  11. steve861uk

    steve861uk Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    Messages:
    772
    Likes Received:
    115
    Am having some great interactions with my fish at the mo.........female clown keeps biting me every time I put my hand in the tank :risas3:
     
  12. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    That's funny only my smaller male bites me and boy does it bite, I only have to go close to the tank and he's up at the surface waiting to clamp his jaws onto my hand, the female just sits there saying "whatever" The male, however, bothers no other fish in the tank unless they get too close their nem, I have never kept a more vicious anti human fish :2guns:
     
  13. steve861uk

    steve861uk Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    Messages:
    772
    Likes Received:
    115
    Must be a clown thing. My old ocellaris female clown used to bite me all the time as well.

    My wife finds it hysterical.....a 6' 100kg male v's a 2" 100gram fish :risas3: She thinks it's especially so when the fish makes me jump and/or shriek :risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
  14. steve861uk

    steve861uk Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    Messages:
    772
    Likes Received:
    115
    Oh and I've also been attacked by a fish whilst snorkelling off the coast of Kenya..........and yes it was a dreaded Clown Fish :eek::D.
     
    jim_fitz likes this.
  15. les

    les Registered

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2011
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    41
    I was attacked by damsels in the Red Sea that was funny enough, NOT! :jaja-no:
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice